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Post by Zia on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:37 pm

Alright guys, this is everyone who is going to be available. I’ve tried to keep straight who was interested in who, but I may have made mistakes! Either let me know here or in a PM who you want, and I’ll make sure they get held! You can also change who you want too, just please keep it reasonable for Melissa’s sake! Wink

To anyone else interested, I’m sorry mice are only available to the breeders I’ve talked to already. Melissa is transporting for me, and she’s already very graciously agreed to bring several cages up. I don’t want to trespass on her generosity any more than I have already!

I guess doing this by color will be the easiest, so ages and stuff will be kind of out of order. If you need any more information or more pics just let me know. Most of the bubs are between 6 and 8 weeks in these pictures. With the tans, bellies will continue to darken as they get older, but most of them have already gone through the most dramatic change and the difference won’t be *too* great. Names are being included to help keep everyone straight. Some of the does are barberers, so some babies have nekked whiskers.

Sorry for the funky lighting in the pics. I took these across a couple days trying to use natural light to my advantage but it didn't work out so well. Sad

Melissa, you said you might be interested in a typey tan buck. I don’t have anything specifically on hold for you, but I’ll put a note where there is one you might be interested in.


The dove tan boy, Prince Blueblood. He’s from Genevieve x Coonhound(Reserved for KAW)


Also from that litter is Pinkie Pie the argente (Reserved for KAW)


KAW, you expressed interest in an agouti doe, and I have these for you to pick from:
Scootaloo, the sister to the two that have been posted already

And Applebloom (a few weeks younger than the others). She’s from a Madeline x Gordon, but the parents of both litters are all related.


Tinyhart and KAW were both interested in Agouti Tan does. Bellies are a little disappointing.
I have Gilda (forgot a belly pic!) from Genevieve x Gordon:

And Cheerilee from Madeline x Gordon. Her belly will probably darken, this litter hasn’t hit its overnight darkening of coloration yet, as they are quite a bit younger than the others.


Next is a pied carrier doe and buck out of Motley x Coonhound. (Reserved for KAW)
The doe, Octavia:

The buck, Bonus


Cinnamon Tan bucks are next. KAW, I know you wanted one, and Melissa, you might be interested.
First up is Braeburn, from Genevieve x Coonhound

And then Hoity Toity, from CSB Cinnamon doe x Gordon


Chocolate self buck, Spitfire, out of CSB Cinnamon doe x Gordon Reserved for Tinyhart


The chocolate self does out of Yvette x Coonhound. Melissa has expressed possible interest in one of these girls.
Daring Do is the top one, and Bon Bon is the bottom one.


The chocolate tan fuzzy does out of Yvette x Coonhound. One of these girls is for KAW, Melissa might be interested in the other:
Screwloose:

Vinyl Scratch:


Chocolate tan does are up next, CSB Cinnamon doe x Gordon. KAW is interested in one, and Melissa might be too.
Zecora:

Junebug:



I’m not too good with the random brown C-Dilutes. I’ve been calling these guys mock chocolate but they could be something else. I think they are some combination of c, c^e, and c^h. KAW, you said you were interested in one of these guys:
Snails:

Crash:


Chocolate Tan bucks. KAW wants one and Melissa might be interested.
Soarin, from Yvette x Coonhound

Pony Joe, from Madeline x Gordon. Again, younger, so not as dark of a belly yet.


Agouti Tan bucks. No one has explicitly wanted these, but they are available so I’m just putting them up.
Big Mac, from Genevieve x Coonhound. He is a big guy.

Ace, from CSB Cinnamon doe X Gordon


Black Tan does. KAW wanted one of these. They are from a self x tan cross so their bellies aren’t that good. I will be keeping whichever two you don’t want.
Fleur-de-Lis

Fluttershy


Sweetiebelle


Black Tan Bucks. Tinyhart has said she wants the best one I can spare and Melissa said she might be able to be talked into one. These are all the black tan bucks I had born, and you guys can have first pick. I’m also putting up one of the adult bucks I have here. I will absolutely keep him if neither of you want him, but I’m just trying to help out. Melissa, if you don’t want me to offer him and take him down, let me know.
GYPT Gordon is the adult:

Spike is one of the self x tan crosses, Riddle x Gordon:


Hydra is the other:


And then Fancy Pants from Madeline x Gordon (younger so his color will probably deepen some still):


And Chancellor Puddinghead from Yvette x Coonhound:



Ok, these are the two pet type litters.
The first litter is all carrying merle, and KAW was interested in the chocolate tan satin doe, chocolate brindle satin doe, and an overmarked chocolate brindle doe. When I look at the overmarked, they could possibly be cinnamon, I guess, I’m not quite sure actually. They do have lovely color though, Beth’s idea of using a nice orange Avy to darken the red hues really works!
Trixie, the chocolate tan satin:

Apple Jack, the chocolate brindle satin doe:

And then you can pick from Philomena

Or Derpy for the overmarked


And last is the black tan merle pet type litter. KAW has reserved the mother and the best of the bucks. Tiny could be interested in one. There is another buck with some patching on his face and rump, but most everyone else turned out just roan. I’m still putting them up if anyone wishes to see. Some of the bubs are satin.
MYM Olive, the mom, Reserved for KAW:

The better marked boy, Pipsqueak:

The less marked boy, Starswirl:

The roan buck Flim:

And the roan buck Flam:

And the roan girls Luna:

Celestia:

And Peppermint Twist:


Whoo! Finally everyone!

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Post by kawmice on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:27 pm

Lol- love them! I will make final decisions after I get some sleep. Soooo tired. Happy. Oh- I would also like the last roam doe if no one else has her claimed. Lol
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Post by GypsyTails on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:39 pm

Yay! Piccies!

For the Cinn Tan bucks, I need to go home and look at my Cracker Jack again to remind me what I'm lacking... lol

Out of the Chocolate self does, I really like Daring Do from that angle. If no one speaks up for Bon Bon, I wouldn't mind an extra Chocolate. I am about to dicontinue my little side projects and stick to my main varieties ONLY. Which includes Chocolate/Cinn Tan genetic contributions. (Meaning I'm going to have more mice available for the trip. Haha.)

Out of the Fuzzy girls, I'd be interested in whoever has either the tightest coat or the lowest ear set. It's hard to tell and I could use either attribute! Lol. (Yes, I'm keeping my Fuzzies!)

I like Zecora the best out of the Choc Tan does, but Junebug is pretty too, so either is fine if Christine wants Zecora. My two Choc Tan does still haven't caught yet, so I am just being proactive!

Are Snails and Crash does or bucks? What were their parents?

From the Choc Tan bucks I need to go home and look at my Count Chokula and see what I'm lacking... again... I forget... lol

Lord, Gordon has some big man-bits! I like Chancelor Puddinghead best of the youngsters. Let me deliberate over the Black Tan boys. I am still recovering after losing Guiness. Sad







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Post by Zia on Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:52 pm

Oh no, Guiness! Upset Poor man. Sad

No worries about needing to look again, there is no rush.

Both of the chocolate girls are available at the moment, and you're welcome to both of them. They have really similar type really, the biggest difference is color depth.

Out of the fuzzy girls, the second one I have posted has the tighter, shorter coat. I'll have to check the ears again when I get home though.

Snails and Crash are bucks. They are out of one of my black does (ZIA Riddle) and Gordon. I'm not sure what dilute Gordon is carrying, but Riddle's dad was ivory, so she's either C/c or C/c^e. I guess Gordon isn't C/c or C/c^e because then I would have had albino or ivory pop up. My next best guess for him was C/c^h or I guess C/c^ch is possible? I'm not too good at the "mud" colors that C-Dilutes cause.

And don't worry about the black tan boys if you don't like any of these! Hopefully there will be plenty more where these came from... and better ones. Happy
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Post by GypsyTails on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:16 pm

Hmmmmm, I would be more inclined to say c^ch from the looks of the dilute boys and from the minimal backgrounds I got on the 2 mice that started and contributed heavily to the Tans I have today. c^ch has little or no effect on brown pigment, right? I could be absolutely wrong though. I did have c pop up very early on BUT I haven't seen it since. I did not have any c^h until very recently. In some of the other mice from MIKI that I started with, there is mention of colorpoint HOWEVER I don't know if it was just a phenotype Mike was labeling as colorpoint (c^h) when the Splash or Tri mouse just had "points" due to c^ch OR if there was really c^h in the pedigree. From the descendants of the said colorpoints mentione, I do now have c^ch for a fact. My c^ch Splashes descended from WNT and MIKI also have these "points" when there is absolutely no possibility of c^h. At this point, when I see Splash on a pedigree, I sometimes cringe..... lol

I would love to have both Chocolate girls and I will take a peek at Cracker Jack and Count Chokula a little later. My eyes are so tired from staring at the computer all day, that I couldn't make an intelligent decision if I tried. Heck, I don't even know if what I just typed makes any sense to a non-crazy person. I'll think about one of the dilute boys since I do have c^ch and their type would be beneficial to that endeavor. Let me sleep and reevaluate my opinions! Bahahaha... I need some edible chocolate now

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Post by Stina on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:23 pm

I'm about 99% sure that those c-dilutes are c^ch/*....I've never seen any of the other c-dilutes produce such dark colors. Beyond that, they are not chocolate based. c^ch removes nearly all pheomelanins (yellow pigment...and anything chocolate/brown based is heavy on pheomelanins...) so it would have a massive effect on anything chocolate based.

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Post by kawmice on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:39 pm

So many! All beautiful! Ok- have to make this quick. I have to get ready for work. Fun..... Lol

My list - added everyone to make it easier. Lol
Prince Blueblood, Pinkie Pie, Applebloom, Cheerilee, Octivia, Bonus, Braeburn, Screwloose, Junebug, Snails, Sorian, Sweetiebelle, Trixie, Applejack, Derpy, Olive, Pipsqueak, and Peppermint Twist if no one wants her. Happy

Hope I got everyone! Thanks!!!! And btw- I LOVE their names and will be keeping them. :-)
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Post by kawmice on Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:42 pm

And so sorry to hear about Guiness!!! Sad
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:37 am

I am finally back online and able to look at these!

As far as chocolates, I am interested most in Zecora. May I replace my chocolate self buck with her?
I like Puddinhead, but Gordon really has the next shade of darker tan that I'd like.
I like the last two roan ladies.
I would take the large agouti buck.

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Post by kawmice on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:03 am

You can definately give peppermint twist to tiny. Happy I figured if no one wanted her I would take her. I can use the two merles to get roan. Lol
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Post by GypsyTails on Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:27 am

After much deliberation, I think I really would like Crash. I still need to inspect my two Tan boys at home though, and decide on the Black Tans as well. I was down in the dumps last night and didn't get to do it. I was hoping I'd get to go home early today, but it doesn't look like it. Boooooooo!


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Post by Zia on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:16 pm

Ok, so from what I gather, this is the list as it stands right now:

Prince Blueblood – Dove Tan Buck – KAW
Pinkie Pie – Argente Doe – KAW
Scootaloo – Agouti Doe –
Applebloom – Agouti Doe – KAW
Gilda – Agouti Tan Doe –
Cheerilee – Agouti Tan Doe – KAW
Octavia – Black Pied Carrier Doe – KAW
Bonus – Black Pied Carrier Buck – KAW
Braeburn – Cinnamon Tan Buck – KAW (tentative)

Hoity Toity – Cinnamon Tan Buck –
Spitfire – Chocolate Buck -
Daring Do –Chocolate Doe – GYPT
Bon Bon – Chocolate Doe – GYPT
Screwloose – Fuzzy Chocolate Tan Doe – KAW
Vinyl Scratch – Fuzzy Chocolate Tan Doe – GYPT
Zecora – Chocolate Tan Doe – Tinyhart
Junebug – Chocolate Tan Doe – KAW
Snails – C-Dilute Buck – KAW
Crash – C-Dilute Buck – GYPT
Soarin – Chocolate Tan Buck – KAW (tentative)

Pony Joe – Chocolate Tan Buck –
Big Mac – Agouti Tan Buck – Tinyhart
Ace – Agouti Tan Buck –
Fleur-de-Lis – Black Tan Doe – ZIA
Fluttershy – Black Tan Doe – ZIA
Sweetiebelle – Black Tan Doe – KAW
Gordon – Black Tan Buck – Tinyhart

Spike – Black Tan Buck –
Hydra – Black Tan Buck –
Fancy Pants – Black Tan Buck –
Puddinghead – Black Tan Buck –
Trixie – Satin Chocolate Tan Doe (pet type) – KAW
Apple Jack – Satin Chocolate Brindle Doe (pet type) – KAW

Philomena – Over-marked Chocolate Brindle Doe (pet type) –
Derpy – Pied Over-marked Chocolate Brindle Doe (pet type) – KAW
Olive – Black Tan Merle Doe (pet type) – KAW
Pipsqueak – Black Tan Merle Buck (pet type) – KAW

Starswirl – Satin Black Tan Merle Buck (pet type) –
Flim – Black Tan Roan Buck (pet type) –
Flam – Black Tan Roan Buck (pet type) –
Luna – Satin Black Tan Roan Doe (pet type) –
Celestia – Black Tan Roan Doe (pet type) – Tinyhart
Peppermint Twist – Black Tan Roan Doe (pet type) – Tinyhart


Melissa: Any Chocolate Tan, Cinnamon Tan, or Black Tan buck is still available for you to choose.

KAW: If Melissa ends up needing Braeburn or Soarin, I’m going to let her have them. If that happens, would you like the other male of each I have available in their place?

To both of you: I can get a better picture of Hoity Toity uploaded if need be, I just noticed how weird his angle is.

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Post by kawmice on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:37 pm

That would be fine. Just let me know. Happy
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Wed Mar 28, 2012 3:48 pm

Looks good to me! If anyone is in desperate need of a mouse I've reserved, let me know.
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Post by GypsyTails on Wed Mar 28, 2012 4:15 pm

Sounds good! I'll let you know about the bucks asap. I have baby weighing to do tonight, regardless of my mood. Laughing

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Post by GypsyTails on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:08 am

Zia, from the photos it looks like Hoity Toity has the thickest tail set of the Cinnamon Tan bucks. Is that correct? Braeburn's testicles are in the way! Laughing Laughing Laughing

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Post by Zia on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:23 am

I believe so! That litter had pretty consistently decent tails. The other litters vary somewhat. I can check when I get home if I need to though!
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Post by kawmice on Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:47 am

Hahaha!!!! He is well endowed I guess! Lol
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Post by GypsyTails on Thu Mar 29, 2012 2:04 pm

Zia wrote:I believe so! That litter had pretty consistently decent tails. The other litters vary somewhat. I can check when I get home if I need to though!

If it is the case, I think I would prefer Hoity Toity. My Cinnamon Tan didn't get the decent tail like his brother the Chocolate Tan. He hasn't bred for me either. The little twerp. tongue

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Post by Zia on Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:10 pm

Sounds good! Is he the only buck you want?
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Post by GypsyTails on Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:20 pm

Him and Crash, the dilute. I have my eye on Hydra though. How old is he?

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Post by Zia on Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:31 pm

He is 9 weeks old today. His litter was bred with a self for type, so they probably won't have the best belly color. He is actually Crash's full brother. They were a cross from Hankey's son to a black that has all of my old favorites in her lines. Castor is his great grandpa, two mice from Mr. Creepy's litter are in there as well (parents are a WNT buck and my girl Vera that I got from you), and the black rex doe I got from you is also a great grandparent. He does have a pretty decent tail, head, and ears, and is a big guy! He's just lacking on the color side. Sad
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Post by GypsyTails on Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:57 pm

Yes, I like Puddinghead for his color, but I like Hydra much better over all. He reminds me of Guinness with better ears but lighter belly. Big eyes too. I'd really have to see him in person, I guess. Hmmmmm.....

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Post by Zia on Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:05 pm

Tell you what! I'm planning on keeping at least one of the black tan bucks for myself. I'll keep Puddinghead, Hydra, Spike, and Fancy Pants on for a while longer and then bring Puddinghead and Hydra up with me when we meet and you can decide then. A couple extra bucks won't kill me and then I have a back-up for whoever you choose. Big smile
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Post by Zia on Fri Mar 30, 2012 10:28 am

Alright, so, everyone has been put down for what they requested! Just going to do one more check. If any of this isn't right, let me know!

KAW, you are getting: Prince Blueblood, Pinkie Pie, Applebloom, Cheerilee, Octavia, Bonus, Braeburn, Screwloose, Junebug, Snails, Soarin, Sweetiebelle, Trixie, Apple Jack, Derpy, Olive, & Pipsqueak

Tinyhart, you are getting: Zecora, Big Mac, Gordon, Celestia, and Peppermint Twist

GypsyTails, you are getting: Hoity Toity, Daring Do, Bon Bon, Vinyl Scratch, Crash, and I'm holding Hydra and Puddinghead for you to possibly pick from


I will be reducing my numbers this weekend, so I want to make sure that I don't accidentally cull a mouse one of you three want. tongue
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