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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:02 pm

You aren't even supposed to HAVE any new litters...not just not bring youngsters under 4 weeks...

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Post by GypsyTails on Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:24 pm

Eek, I have one mouse who should have popped 3 days ago..... :/

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Post by bethmccallister on Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:23 pm

Why would having new litters born into the same environment that the parents existed in during QT be forbidden? That's got to be a mistake. I don't have any due now but if I did I guess I'd have to move them to a friends house...too weird.
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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:41 pm

It's not a mistake. It's always been their policy...people just ignore that one.

There is a legitimate reason for it...it has something to do with things being passed to offspring through milk...but I forget the whole thing.

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Post by Rhasputin on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:40 pm

I think it's outdated. Nobody follows that rule, honestly. tongue
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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:46 pm

Nobody following it doesn't make it outdated or not a good idea.

There are diseased that can be perpetuated by breeding regularly...and that can be erradicated by not breeding for a couple months. There's a specific disease I'm thinking of...but I can't remember what it is...

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Post by Rhasputin on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:56 pm

Well maybe there is, but how does that affect the QT of mice? Neither the mother, nor the babies can be taken to RF, so what does it matter? tongue
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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:58 pm

if new youngsters pick up the infection from their mother's milk and it becomes active in them (even before presenting symptoms) it could be innadvertently passed back to the rest of the colony

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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:00 am

You'd have to let me know what you're talking about before I believe that. tongue

To imagine that a mother, would pass something to her litter (specifically, and not directly to other mice), then they'd pass that same thing on to other mice in the mousery, seems very unlikely to me.

But if it's true, it's true!
But for now, I don't buy into that.
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:10 am

You can have latent infections in adult animals (it happens in other species too....) that are not active and take a while to die off....but that can be passed to offspring in milk...babies have MUCH weaker immune systems than adults and these infections can become active again in them...and once they are active the germs can become stronger and cause new active infections in adults if they are introduced to it (either through the air, items being moved, or touching things/animals between cages).

I really wish I could remember the mouse disease I'm thinking of...but I don't even know how to search for it...lol


Regardless of what you believe may or may not be true...if one is having litters within the 4 weeks prior to RF, they are breaking the quarantine set by the organizers.

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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:13 am

I've emailed the organizers asking for specification. Wink
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:18 am

I asked on the facebook page too...lol

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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:20 am

Good plan!
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Post by GypsyTails on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:24 am

Pastuerellosis can lie dormant in a does, passed to her offspring through the birthing process, become "active" in them and then be spread via mucous or whatever to other parts of a colony just by not washing your hands.....

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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:24 am

Interesting!
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Post by GypsyTails on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:26 am

I think I spelled that right. Can't Myco act similarly?

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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:33 am

I don't think pastuerellosis is what I was thinking of...but I have no doubt that there are multiple things that can act in that way.

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