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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:40 am

Agreed. That is not a normal eye pigment at all....definitely not like people or dogs and such have green eyes. Those are not "healthy green" eyes.

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Post by kawmice on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:04 am

I can reproduce this pic in paint. I make all my own computer graphic myself and it would not be hard. After reading your email you send me- I truly believe this to be false. Maybe even a scam to get money for a mouse that does not exist. I warn everyone who is even remotely considering purchasing one to use extreme caution.
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Post by kawmice on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:06 am

Mods- I am sorry if I am over steping my lines. If so please feel free to delete these two posts. I am just looking out for everyone.
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Post by hoopstar787 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:57 am

@ Kawmice no need to delete ur posts. I wouldnt put up nothing that is fake. I know that its real seen it with my own eyes. I can provide anyone with the guys email if u like to contact him urself.

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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:23 am

hoopstar, can you provide more information to the public on this board? PMing you for details does sound a little sneaky to the average person, and I am sure that we all want to know what you know without the extra work of PMs. If the information is legit there is no reason not to share it here. Remember it's ok to edit out names and emails.

That being said, if it is not Photoshopped, that mouse could be blind perhaps.
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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:52 am

No offense, but trying to sell people mice for upwards of $1000 each, from another country, which you have 'supposedly' seen in person, is not going to be successful.

If you're going to ask such a high price, you need to get your own details worked out.
First, I wouldn't try to sell the mice, if they are not actually in your possession.
From meeting you in person, I know that you undersand very very little about genetics, which is fine, not everyone does. But when you understand so little, it is best that you don't make big claims about mice, (such as 'guaranteeing' their genetics) when you know next to nothing about how their genes work.

I am still of the opinion that if they truly do exist, they are dyed, or that they are the HIV study mice. And until you can supply people with better proof, and less shady practices (I spoke with you about them for months, and was never allowed to speak to the actual owner of the mice) then I doubt very highly that anyone will be willing to purchase these mice from you.

Please understand. Happy
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:31 pm

omg seriously???.....no wonder he didn't post the details....sounds like trying to scam someone out of a buttload of money without other people having the chance to advise them not to be stupid.

Who in their right mind would pay upwards of $1000 for a mouse?...I don't care if its bright freakin purple.....that's ridiculous!....especially for a "trait" that's either easily faked, or if not faked, there's no way its a healthy thing.....


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Post by Mrs. Beach on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:36 pm

What it looks like to me is those mice the Japanese scientists grafted the flourescent cells from jellyfish into. You know the ones? The technology is now used to inject the cells into cancer cells in humans so they all can be seen to be removed in surgery.

Oh. Just saw Tiny's post. Nigerian prince, please!

...Wonder what happened to Hoopstar? Hey, Hoopstar! We are just a jolly group of friends. Making fun of your offer is just making fun, not intending to be mean to you. You are perfectly welcome to stay here and participate on the forums about mice and ASF's.
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Re: Green Eyed Mouse

Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:18 pm

Rob, you'll have to excuse us all, but you have to understand how fishy your post sounds!

To everyone else. Please no more joking around. Everyone has said enough about how suspicious this thread seems, so the point has been made. I've had to delete several comments that were out of line, and I don't want it getting any messier.

Rob, please do let us know if you ever get your green eyed mice. I'm sure we'll be very interested in seeing them.

Some of us should be ashamed of the way we handled this.
I'm going to try not locking this topic for now, but if things continue (from anyone) I'll have to close it.
Thanks!
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Post by Chilloutarea Mousery on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:48 pm

Mrs. Beach wrote:What it looks like to me is those mice the Japanese scientists grafted the flourescent cells from jellyfish into. You know the ones? The technology is now used to inject the cells into cancer cells in humans so they all can be seen to be removed in surgery.

Hi Ann,
I agree, this could be true. There are many mice around who carry the eGFP in their genomes. Have a look here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_fluorescent_protein

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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:50 pm

It looks like it *could* be the flourescent protein...but even if it is, and is inheritable...that would definitely affect their vision.

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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:55 pm

Are all fluorescent proteins inheritable?
A while back, I was under the impression that none were.

Are they recessive? Or dominant?
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Re: Green Eyed Mouse

Post by Mrs. Beach on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:55 pm

That's it, Roland! Thanks!
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:03 pm

It would depend on how it was done.....the genes for flourescent proteins can be inserted into embryos and can be inheritable...I don't know if ones that effect specific cell types or anything can be inheritable....but I know for example glofish and the "neon mice" and such will reproduce the flourescence.

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Post by mouselover01 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:19 pm

In the Wiki article you see a photo of the mice and their eyes glow.
Do they have vision problems?

Could these be a similar mouse that just doesn't express it all over and just on the eyes.

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Re: Green Eyed Mouse

Post by Stina on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:28 pm

**shrug** lol I imagine this would have to affect their vision...but I'm not sure how much...I wonder if it would make it difficult for them to sleep...lol

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Post by mouselover01 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:30 pm

I wonder if they see in shades of green?

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Post by Rhasputin on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:32 pm

I want fluorescent eyes . . . Hissy fit
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Post by mouselover01 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:32 pm

Get the contacts!
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:38 pm

I wonder if they see in shades of green?
I would think they must....its not just their iris that's green...the entire eye is...so they are looking through it...if they can see through it at all.... It looks pretty opaque...so I wouldn't be surprised if they can't really see much, if at all.

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Post by hoopstar787 on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:39 pm

I am happy with everyone's input about the green eyed mouse. I really dont know about the genetics part i go more on color if i like the color i get it. When i get mine i will galdly meet with anybody so u can see them in person.

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Post by kawmice on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:44 pm

I would definately like to see them when you get them.
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Post by Mrs. Beach on Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Oh, yeah! Where do you live, Hoopstar?
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Post by hoopstar787 on Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:11 am

I live in Dutchess County NY

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Post by Chilloutarea Mousery on Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:51 am

The eGFP itself is colorless. Under normal light you see no difference to wildtype. The green (or red or yellow or blue fluorescense) is visible, when you put the mouse under black light (UV light). The inheritance is dominant, homozygous mice are brighter green than heterozygous. The fur does not show fluorescence, but the skin dose.

Here are more links:
http://www.neonmice.com/
http://www.egr.biken.osaka-u.ac.jp/files/green_mouse/green_mouse.pdf

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