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Post by lunalady on Thu Apr 19, 2012 9:21 am

My question is, which is better for the mice? Can the mice tails actually curl using the wheel?? Is that bad for a show mouse?? Any input is appreciated. Robin

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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:00 am

Saucers are better. They pose essentially no injury risk, are easier to clean, and do not make the mice move unnaturally. Regular wheels force them to arch their backs upwards and can lead to long term problems (including wheel tail), depending on the type, they can also cause injuries and be very difficult to clean. Wheels also require much higher cages....especially since the small wheels are too small.

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Post by thistlebrook on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:22 am

Agreed, saucers are much better for the reasons that Stina listed. Happy
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Post by lunalady on Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:59 am

Ok, Great. Is the 6 1/2" a good size??? They fit in the 5 gallon tanks. But, should I get the 12" for my 20 gallon tanks???

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Post by kawmice on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:43 pm

I completely agree here as well.... sausers are way better then wheels. As far as the correct size for the tanks? I think the 6 and 12 inch are fine. I would use the 12 inch in the 20 gallon tanks. Happy
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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:43 pm

The 12 in ones would probably be difficult for mice to move....they are rat size...lol

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Post by seafolly on Thu Apr 19, 2012 1:38 pm

The only saucers I can find are chinchilla/rat sized. Sad I took Tully's wheel out because she was definitely getting wheel tail (seems to be corrected now). Hopefully she'll be alright with just lots of tubes and hidey-hole places.
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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 19, 2012 2:49 pm

http://www.bio-serv.com/product/INNO.html

.....so....who wants to split a case of 150?....lol

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Post by lunalady on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:34 pm

You can get them a Petstore.com. They have Kritter Keepers all sizes very inexpensive too. Hid a logs are cheap prices as well.

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Post by kawmice on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:35 pm

Hahaha!! Don't I feel STUPID!!! I do not use them personally and therefore messed up on the sizes...... lol
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Post by kawmice on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:39 pm

You know what Stina...... I really like those!! I would not mind have some. But the dome and wheel are sold seperately. I still like them though. Happy
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Post by Stina on Thu Apr 19, 2012 3:42 pm

lol...yeah I forgot about that....they are the best though! They used to sell them in smaller quantities Sad If we got enough people though, they would still only be about $2 for 2 domes and 1 wheel part.....lol

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Post by Mrs. Beach on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:09 pm

I would go in on a case of 150, but not for an entire half of it. Anyone else want to?

I accept and agree with everything that's been said about saucers, but my mice do so love spinning themselves in loop the loops on mesh wheels! I try always to get them eight-inch wheels for their backs.
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Post by onceuponamousery on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:56 am

I had saucer wheels but the middle piece that holds it in would always pop out and then I'd go to clean the cage and accidentally throw it out, I know they are said to be the best but when my mice would run on it they would run on a weird angle that looked really akward for them and made their body bend weird, also they get so dirty and run in their pee and poop, I've been using the van ness spoke wheels for years and they are the only ones that normally don't make noise for me and are easy to clean, they seem big enough that the mice don't curl their tails, just my opionion and experience but not saying I'm right.

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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:10 pm

You just have to be careful with the plastic piece that goes in the middle of the ware saucers. Running in a circle is WAY better for their backs that running with their back arched upwards like in a regular wheel....it is normal for the back to turn sideways....not so much to make it go backwards... Just b/c you haven't had one end up with wheel tail, doesn't mean it won't happen, and doesn't make that unnatural positioning good for them.

Also, with the wire wheels..they are still running in their pee and poop.....it sticks to the wires and is very dificult to really get clean, unless you put them in a dishwasher. I used them for years, until I found the saucers. I think they're so much easier to clean and don't get nasty as fast as any regular wheels I've ever used.

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Post by onceuponamousery on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:23 pm

Oh ok, yeah I was just worried when I saw them having a harder time running on them, w the reg wheels they never got that dirty for me, it just went through the spaces but when I used the saucer it got bad within days but I see what you mean about them being easier to wash off, I just soak mine in the bathtub but since I've been pregnant I'm going to start using the dishwasher, it hurts my back leaning over the tub to clean! lol I'm going to have to get some saucers and experiment Happy

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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 20, 2012 12:32 pm

It takes some mice a while to get used to the saucers...but they are much better for them long term.

The waste doesn't just "go through the spaces" of wire wheels....some of it does...but it also gets caked on the wires. The wires also aren't particularly good for little mousey feet.

The dishwasher is a fine way to clean any wheel, but it will definitely reduce the life of a wire wheel.

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Post by Mrs. Beach on Fri Apr 20, 2012 2:58 pm

I've taken to gluing the white hub thing in place in the saucer part of the saucer. No more lost white hub things!
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:00 pm

has anyone ever tried contacting ware about getting replacements for those??..

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Post by bethmccallister on Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:51 pm

I know I have several 6 inch saucers with no white hubs. They seem to fall out in that size but not the 4 inch ones that I use for single buck cages. They fall out and then the mice chew on them and then they don't fit back in if they don't eat the entire thing, lol!
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Post by Mrs. Beach on Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:38 pm

I would LOVE to know where I could buy replacement white saucer hubs!
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Post by Stina on Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:41 pm

I always forget that they have 4" ones....I've only ever gotten the 6" ones. I've never had any of the mice chew on the wheels themselves at all...I do have a hub or two that have been chewed a bit...lol but yeah...one of us needs ot contact Ware and see if we can get replacements...lol I'm busy right now though :-P

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Post by Mrs. Beach on Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:09 am

Stina, the company is called Ware? Anything else, like Ware, Inc.? You got a phone number or a web site URL? I'll do the contacting!

...Found their web site. Am downloading their entire catalogue now.
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Post by Mrs. Beach on Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:01 am

OK. I have an email inquiry in to their sales dept. now about where to obtain "acetyl plastic hubs" for flying saucers.
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Post by onceuponamousery on Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:00 pm

Mrs. Beach wrote:I've taken to gluing the white hub thing in place in the saucer part of the saucer. No more lost white hub things!

That's a good idea, what glue do you use? If I get them I just will have to be more cautious and not lose the hub! lol

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