White tan possible?
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White tan possible?
How does one get a white tan mouse? Is it even possible? I've heard of a german breeder who has them, but I don't get how it's possible to get a white mouse with a tan belly... Anyone that knows the genetics behind it? Photo's would be nice to
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So far as I'm aware a truly WHITE mouse with a tan belly is impossible. However you could breed dove to be nearly white with a bright tan belly....
Stina- Hopper
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Silver tans work really well as 'white' tans. They're very striking.
There was some discussion on what this mouse was, but I think the conclusion was that it was a silver tan.
There was some discussion on what this mouse was, but I think the conclusion was that it was a silver tan.
Rhasputin- Adult
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It's probably really a dove "silver" though....since blue greatly decreases orange pigment and makes it extremely difficult to get a good tan belly....but yeah, that's what it looks like to me. It doesn't look quite white, but close.
Stina- Hopper
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This mouse does not belong to me, would you like me to pass on contact information for the owner?
Rhasputin- Adult
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I think I know where you got the picture then, I know zoo della luna, thats why I asked Sharon from Belgium right?
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So this is the only way to have a white tan? No other possibilities? Of course c-dilutions are out of the question, but anything with bew?
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I think it will only work with silver or dove.
Rhasputin- Adult
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Also yes, that is Sharon's mouse.
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If you used the piebald-origin BEW, you'd have to have a mouse with all the spots on the top, which would be insanely difficult. Other forms of BEW are dilution-based, meaning no tan.
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There's also piebald x variegated BEW, which I don't think will work either, but I'm not sure.
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Definitely wouldn't....b/c the white spotting blots out the tan. I don't think a spotting based tan would ever have any chance of working. All the white spotting genes kinda work from the belly up....with most of the spotting always being on the belly, and it takes a LOT of work to get it close to even having the spotting even from top to belly.
Stina- Hopper
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Wow- interresting. First of all I would like to say that I really like that mouse.
I agree about the spotted gene. Working with both spotted (s/s) and tan (at) I can definately say that it is vitually impossible to get a solid tan belly. You can have a black broken (pied) Tan but the tan will be splotches on the belly, not a solid tan color.
It is hard to get a good silver tan. It takes a lot of time and selective breeding. Even I got discouraged and stopped my silver tan lines. But I have seen some beautiful and stunning silver tans. I think with the right breeding you definately can achieve a mouse that looks like tje one above and even lighter if bred correctly.
I agree about the spotted gene. Working with both spotted (s/s) and tan (at) I can definately say that it is vitually impossible to get a solid tan belly. You can have a black broken (pied) Tan but the tan will be splotches on the belly, not a solid tan color.
It is hard to get a good silver tan. It takes a lot of time and selective breeding. Even I got discouraged and stopped my silver tan lines. But I have seen some beautiful and stunning silver tans. I think with the right breeding you definately can achieve a mouse that looks like tje one above and even lighter if bred correctly.
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