Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
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Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
I have a new litter and the bub seems to have 1 ear that's dumbo... I recall seeing a pic of a mouse like that once before and I believe it was called "Gremlin".
Is anyone familiar with Gremlin mice?
What do you think, is this a Gremlin?
Top view
Front view
"Dumbo" ear
Normal ear
As an added note, this little guy's parents are completely unrelated. Mom is a pet-type BEW Angora from the pet store I work at and the dad is a show-type PEW from Beth at Mousery Moments.
Is anyone familiar with Gremlin mice?
What do you think, is this a Gremlin?
Top view
Front view
"Dumbo" ear
Normal ear
As an added note, this little guy's parents are completely unrelated. Mom is a pet-type BEW Angora from the pet store I work at and the dad is a show-type PEW from Beth at Mousery Moments.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
AW! How the heck did you get that? Seems extremely lucky if you ask me! I'm fairly certain it's a gremlin...they are so rare.
tinyhartmouseries- Moderator
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
I wish I knew! Lol.
I was trying to breed for BEW, no gremlin.
From what I've read, Gremlin is a recessive gene, so what are the odds of 2 unrelated mice carrying such a rare gene?!
I was trying to breed for BEW, no gremlin.
From what I've read, Gremlin is a recessive gene, so what are the odds of 2 unrelated mice carrying such a rare gene?!
Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
"gremlin" that's been seen in the fancy has been pretty random...did not seem to be a simple recessive.
In the other "gremlin" type animals I've seen....the low ear was still shaped normally. This mouse looks like the low ear is deformed...but it'll be interested to see how it matures!
In the other "gremlin" type animals I've seen....the low ear was still shaped normally. This mouse looks like the low ear is deformed...but it'll be interested to see how it matures!
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
I don't know if it's the same thing as the other gremlin mice that have been in the fancy, but it does have a deformed ear, for sure.
I need a culled gremlin, or gremlin-like mouse, for a museum. Basically name your price, and I'll pay it.
But you should definitely at least test breed it once. I think it's just a random deformity though, and not actual 'gremlin' deformity.
I need a culled gremlin, or gremlin-like mouse, for a museum. Basically name your price, and I'll pay it.
But you should definitely at least test breed it once. I think it's just a random deformity though, and not actual 'gremlin' deformity.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Sorry Rhasputin, he's not for sale, lol. I'll be keeping him and a couple of his sisters to test breed and see if any more pop up or if it's just a one-time fluke.
I have a hairless buck with a deformed ear whom you probably would have liked, but he's been adopted.
If I get any more babies with funky ears I'll be sure to keep you in mind.
I have a hairless buck with a deformed ear whom you probably would have liked, but he's been adopted.
If I get any more babies with funky ears I'll be sure to keep you in mind.
Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Wow. This is entirely new to me. I can't wait to see more of him as he grows up.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Whatever it is it would be nice to see pics of him when he's mature, just to see how the shape and placement develop with age.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Please let me know if you change your mind. Even if it's a year from now.
At the very least, please keep me in mind when his time comes, naturally.
The museum is very keen on getting a mouse with an ear deformity.
At the very least, please keep me in mind when his time comes, naturally.
The museum is very keen on getting a mouse with an ear deformity.
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Rhasputin, Your museum would want him dead, right???
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
lunalady wrote:Rhasputin, Your museum would want him dead, right???
Yes unfortunately. I don't mean that the mouse should be put down for a bounty, and no other reason, just to please keep in mind whenever he does come to the end of his life, that there is an educational group that would really love to have him!
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I'll be sure to keep you in mind for him or any other mice I get with ear deformities. I'll be sure to pass your info on to the person getting Van Gogh as well(the TH with a deformed ear).
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Oh, Ok. Thanks for that. Glad you did not mean kill him. Yes, I agree when his little life ends that would be reasonable.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Awe, he's so cute!
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
He's adorable. It will be interesting to see how his ear develops.
Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Wow. His ear does not look deformed in these pics. I would say he is definately a gremlin. I love him! He is so darn cute!
Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
I think the entire left side of the face looks malformed..... I still don't think its a gremlin.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
I agree with Stina, I think it's a moderate cranial deformity.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Really? I do see what you two mean. I thought that was just the picture. Guess I was wrong@ lol. He is cute though!
Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
Well consider that dumbo in rats is caused by a cranial deformity as well. It's just one that is very stable, and almost never causes problems.
I would imagine that the original gremlin gene is also a type of skull deformity, and likely so is dumbo in mice. Though to my knowledge only the dumbo rats were ever reproduced with any reliability.
I would imagine that the original gremlin gene is also a type of skull deformity, and likely so is dumbo in mice. Though to my knowledge only the dumbo rats were ever reproduced with any reliability.
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Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
In person his skull doesn't look deformed. I think he's just holding his head funny in that picture. The funky ear tends to create a bit of a visual illusion, lol. I always think he's tilting his head because of it, even though he's not.
Re: Is this bub a gremlin mouse? *UPDATED 5/18*
The distance from the front of his eye to the tip of his nose is very different left to right in the pic from above... In the last pic the shape of his skull looks asymmetrical as well....
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