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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue May 22, 2012 3:45 am

One of the bucks I brought from Rodentfest is looking really weird tonight. He has all four legs and feet swollen up and is walking really weirdly. He doesn't appear to have any wounds, is well hydrated and fed.

Does anyone know what this might be? I will euthanize him if it persists much more than a couple of days, it looks painful. I've never seen it before and I'm curious about it.
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Post by kawmice on Tue May 22, 2012 3:52 am

Oh wow........... Sad

I have no clue what it could be. I do know in cats swollen paw pads can mean lung cancer. I am not saying he has lung cancer though! lol Maybe it is just a contact allergy due to something in his cage or maybe a cleaner used to clean his cage? Maybe it is water retension for some weird reason?

Lots of maybe.... so sorry I can't be of more help
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Post by kawmice on Tue May 22, 2012 3:54 am

Can you post a picture?
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue May 22, 2012 4:09 am

Unfortunetly I've lost my camera charger in the move and I can't get the darn thing to stay charged.

His cage is the same as it was last week and it hasn't been changed in a week (about time) They are just big, fat, swollen, purple feet. I saw a spider in their tonight too, unsure if he could have gotten bitten but he appears to not have injuries.
It's so weird.
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Post by kawmice on Tue May 22, 2012 4:15 am

Purple..... oh boy. Poor baby.

It could definately be an allergic reaction to a spider bite. I am concerned about the purple color though. That means he may not be getting enough blood supply to his feet and legs due to the swelling. Too bad benadryl did not come in small enough doses for mice.

Oh, and sorry about you losing your charger to your canera. Moves can stink in that aspect.
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue May 22, 2012 4:16 am

I have lost so many important items..sigh...

I am going to check on him tomorrow and if he's not better...he is going to be put out of the misery of this. Sad
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Post by kawmice on Tue May 22, 2012 10:39 am

I really hope he is doing better today. Keep us posted!
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue May 22, 2012 1:32 pm

The splashed is still just as swollen. His back legs are the ones that appear to be purple. He also acts very jumpy and frantic.
He has a small wound on his front paw but it doesn't appear to be a spider bite.
What I have right now is Baytril, would that help any? If this is serious, as I said, I'd euthanize him even though he's just so pretty. Could he have something like arthritis or lupus?
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Post by Mrs. Beach on Tue May 22, 2012 1:59 pm

In a person this would indicate bad circulation to the extremities. It is technically termed "cyanosis". The red, oxygenated blood travels from the heart to the extremities, there is poor circulation, it can't get back to the heart, the oxygen is used up and the blood's color begins to change to blue (the color of blood returning to the heart minus oxygen). (My dad had this.)
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue May 22, 2012 2:43 pm

Is this something that happens often in mice? Does he need a wheel or a big cage to run around in? is it a genetic or reoccuring problem?
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Post by GypsyTails on Tue May 22, 2012 4:17 pm

I had a doe recently who had one paw that might fit your description. I have spider issues, so I chalked it off to another spider attack at first. It was just one paw, though the foot and part of the "ankle" eventually turned blue. It didn't start until she was noticeably pregnant with her second litter though. At around 3 weeks of age, I lost 2 of the baby does mysteriously and I had to euthanize a young buck at 4 weeks for what appeared to be a sudden failure to thrive. I don't know what it was. The doe seems perfectly fine except part of her foot is still discolored and a little swollen. I have the remaining 4 youngin's on close observation, but have found no issues thus far. I don't know if a spider bite would cause issues for unborn babies, or if something funky is going on here. I have spiders though..... But that was my first experience with foot/paw swelling.

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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue May 22, 2012 4:56 pm

Thanks Gyp! This is so weird, it's all the feet. Unless this guy is suffering through his entire body, which would be so terrible.
I bet a spider bite would cause problems with babies...or at least tax the mother's system so that she can't raise them correctly.
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Post by lunalady on Wed May 23, 2012 7:36 am

Gee, That is too bad. Poor little guy. Spider bite sounds like the culprit. Sad


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Post by Rhasputin on Wed May 23, 2012 10:32 am

Very, very strange. . . Poor little man. Cry
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Post by Mrs. Beach on Wed May 23, 2012 10:44 am

How's he doing?
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Wed May 23, 2012 12:30 pm

I have not euthanized him-one front paw appears to have gone down to almost normal size. I am hoping to see some further improvements today.

If a wild mouse came and bit one of his toes, could this cause swelling? I did not find evidence of wild mice in my new home but last night I saw some suspiciously small poos around his bin. I know when a mouse bites me sometimes my whole hand swells up. It's borderline allergy thing.
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Wed May 23, 2012 2:12 pm

Today, this morning, he looks the same as he did last night.
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Post by doganddisc on Wed May 23, 2012 3:17 pm

Poor guy. I hope he's not suffering. Sad
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Post by Rhasputin on Wed May 23, 2012 3:26 pm

tinyhartmouseries wrote:I have not euthanized him-one front paw appears to have gone down to almost normal size. I am hoping to see some further improvements today.
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That's good to hear!
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Post by lunalady on Wed May 23, 2012 9:00 pm

He is eating fine??? Drinking alot of water???? We'll keep our fingers crossed.

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Post by Mrs. Beach on Wed May 23, 2012 10:26 pm

Improvement is always good!
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Thu May 24, 2012 2:16 pm

Sadly, after long deliberation I did decide to put this guy to sleep. His back feet were even more swollen then I thought possible this morning, and he had giant lymph nodes under his chin.. I'm very upset and weirded out over it. None of the other mice are remotely under top condition so something immuno-compromising must have been going on with this guy.
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Post by renapopma on Thu May 24, 2012 2:27 pm

Sorry you had to put him to sleep. *hugs*

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Post by Mrs. Beach on Thu May 24, 2012 3:54 pm

Wow! So sorry!
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Post by kawmice on Thu May 24, 2012 4:09 pm

I am sooooo sorry!! Sad I wonder what could have happened....


Maybe he threw a clot??
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