Pandora's Babies! And knowing who to cull?

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Post by doganddisc on Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:06 pm

The girl is still tiny. I am never going to be able to use her for anything, but I'm trying to get her to pull through because I'm so fond of her color and think she would make a wonderful pet.
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Post by doganddisc on Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:51 am

Well the beige girl has not grown one bit. I moved her to a different doe because a second baby in this litter started showing issues with growth and I wanted to see if it was a problem with the mother's milk, or just a genetic defect. It seems to be a genetic defect. Sad

Here are the three does from the litter. The black one is falling behind in growth, though it's hard to tell from the photos. The beige girl is really behind. Her eyes are fully open and she is active (runs on her wheel and everything) but she clearly isn't healthy.







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Post by seafolly on Tue Jun 12, 2012 1:17 pm

Oh dang. Is this something worth trying again? Or is this where a breeder throws in the towel with that particular crossing? They're so darn gorgeous.
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Post by Mrs. Beach on Tue Jun 12, 2012 2:07 pm

Oh! Look at that _little_ girl! How sad.

I would say that if more than one baby in the litter is having this problem, it is not a crossing to repeat, unfortunately. You might breed the mother and father to different mice and try crossing two of their offspring.
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Post by tinyhartmouseries on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:04 pm

Oh, the little one is not doing well at all, I would myself, euthanize her before she wastes away. how sad. I've never had to cull a baby at this age but it would be heartbreaking. Sad
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Post by doganddisc on Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 pm

seafolly wrote:Oh dang. Is this something worth trying again? Or is this where a breeder throws in the towel with that particular crossing? They're so darn gorgeous.

They are gorgeous. Sad

I would say that if more than one baby in the litter is having this problem, it is not a crossing to repeat, unfortunately. You might breed the mother and father to different mice and try crossing two of their offspring.

I would never repeat this breeding. I could never justify it, especially since I'm not even breeding for beige- it was just a lucky coincidence. My concern though is with the offspring- is it safe to breed them? My intention was to breed mom to son, but at this point I imagine that is not a good idea. I have another chocolate whom I could breed to the buck I got from this litter (one buck and doe seem fine but I'm monitoring them closely).

Oh, the little one is not doing well at all, I would myself, euthanize her before she wastes away. how sad. I've never had to cull a baby at this age but it would be heartbreaking.

I was going to euthanize her Sad I don't know how I should go about doing it though. She's so tiny. I feel like CD is going to be impossible on her and she's much too small for CO2.

EDIT: It's done. I took her out and she looked awful. I used CD- no problem. Poor girl Sad
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Post by seafolly on Tue Jun 12, 2012 4:19 pm

*hugs* I'm so, so sorry. I definitely couldn't do it that far along.
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Post by doganddisc on Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:34 am

More photos!

Colorpoint beige splash: "Autumn"





Most of my mouse photos look like this. As it turns out, I selectively breed for camera shy mice:



Small girl black doe:



Black buck, "Ashes":





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