Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
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Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
This is my Super Line, descended from Super Girl. I am breeding for c^ch/c^e brindle tricolors.
Mother: Chrysalis = A^vy/a c^e/c^e s/s Spl/*
Father: Tuxton = a^t/A c^ch/c^ch d/d Sa/sa s/s
(Tuxton has a white tail tip. Perhaps he is S/s.)
The babies on Day 7:
Seems to me the three on the right and the two pied ones are A^vy. The one in the middle would be plain c^ch/c^e. And what, pray tell, is the entirely pink one????? Chrysalis is extremely high white. Could the entirely pink one be entirely covered with s/s? I was thinking she might be a plain old A^vy brindle--but she couldn't! All babies must be c^ch/c^e, and besides, there's no orange showing on her, and there is on those other darker bubs.
The colored butt spot of the higher white baby is a lighter shade than its colored head spots, so I'm hoping it is a tri.
Mother: Chrysalis = A^vy/a c^e/c^e s/s Spl/*
Father: Tuxton = a^t/A c^ch/c^ch d/d Sa/sa s/s
(Tuxton has a white tail tip. Perhaps he is S/s.)
The babies on Day 7:
Seems to me the three on the right and the two pied ones are A^vy. The one in the middle would be plain c^ch/c^e. And what, pray tell, is the entirely pink one????? Chrysalis is extremely high white. Could the entirely pink one be entirely covered with s/s? I was thinking she might be a plain old A^vy brindle--but she couldn't! All babies must be c^ch/c^e, and besides, there's no orange showing on her, and there is on those other darker bubs.
The colored butt spot of the higher white baby is a lighter shade than its colored head spots, so I'm hoping it is a tri.
Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
Would an undermarked (all-orange) Avy ce/ch mouse not be all white? If not, then high-white s/s would be your next best bet, I agree.
Laigaie- Hopper
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Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
A^vy/* c^e/c^e I have discovered is a pale, creamy yellow, so c^ch/c^e being two shades darker...yeah, might still look like a pink mouse. I am hoping that an A^vy/* c^ch/c^e will be the color of Mrs. Beach in my avatar. If not, I'll need to go to c^ch/c^ch. But you've got a point, there. Waiting for furrrr!
Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
Well, perhaps you've got the orange/white part down, and the mouse will be useful when bred to more densely-striped mice?
Laigaie- Hopper
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Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
There is a smudge of orange on the pink one's back. Hard to see. Perhaps it is going to be my brindle tri. I am thinking the three brownish ones that I think are A^vy (still do, because of their orange case) are also agouti. I'd forgotten that Tuxton is a^t/A.
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Oh, wow! You can really see that orange splashing coming through, now.
Laigaie- Hopper
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Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
So, yeah, I am thinking that someone's c-dilutes are not what I had supposed because there should be no white babies with splashes in this litter.
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Oh my goodness. Loving that orange splash! <3
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Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
I WANT TO TRY TO IDENTIFY THE DARKER ONES.
Here's everybody:
Here are the three darkest. I am looking for c^ch!
The lighest one of these three with what I think is a dilute self (smaller one). I also think it may be brindle. Any chance of c^ch?
Attempted shot of its nose. Do you see stripes?
The pied/splashed ones.
Anybody see nose stripes?
I think they are both splashed on their right flanks. Look at this pic:
That would make them c^ch/c^e brindle tricolor candidates.
What do people thing?
STINAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!????????
Here's everybody:
Here are the three darkest. I am looking for c^ch!
The lighest one of these three with what I think is a dilute self (smaller one). I also think it may be brindle. Any chance of c^ch?
Attempted shot of its nose. Do you see stripes?
The pied/splashed ones.
Anybody see nose stripes?
I think they are both splashed on their right flanks. Look at this pic:
That would make them c^ch/c^e brindle tricolor candidates.
What do people thing?
STINAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!????????
Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
Sunshine pix, Day 15.
Splashed butts?
Whatever dilute the pieds are, they're the same as this self, I think:
Now for the dilutes. I think the three big ones are the same dilute, but two are agouti, and possibly umbrous. I keep thinking they look chinchillated. (I am hoping they are. There are supposed to be 25%-50% c^ch/c^e in this litter. The fourth small one appears to be satin and possibly brindle.
The dilutes' bellies, from darkest to lightest:
Undercoats:
Splashed butts?
Whatever dilute the pieds are, they're the same as this self, I think:
Now for the dilutes. I think the three big ones are the same dilute, but two are agouti, and possibly umbrous. I keep thinking they look chinchillated. (I am hoping they are. There are supposed to be 25%-50% c^ch/c^e in this litter. The fourth small one appears to be satin and possibly brindle.
The dilutes' bellies, from darkest to lightest:
Undercoats:
Re: Chrysalis' brindle tri babies?
Here is a question: There is only one phenotypical brindle in this litter. There really should be more! This line has mainly undermarked brindles, so there won't be a lot of stripes to guide me. Some of the babies are way bigger than others.
Bub 1: Day 2=2.5g, Day 17=9.2g, a^t/a D/d c^ch/c^e s/s, Spl?/* (lesser high white)
Bub 2: Day 2=2.5g, Day 17=12.0g, a^t/* c^ch/c^e, medium dilute fox self
Bub 3: Day 2=2.4g, Day 17=8.6g, a^t/* c^ch/c^e, s/s Spl?/* (greater high white)
Bub 4: Day 2=2.4g, Day 17=12.3g, */a c^ch/c^e, darkest dilute self
Bub 5: Day 2=2.3g, Day 17=12.3g, a^t/* c^ch/c^e Spl?/*, second darkest dilute fox self
Bub 6: Day 2=2.3g, Day 17=8.6g, A^vy?/* c^ch/c^e, lightest dilute self
Bub 7: Day 2=2.2g, Day 17=12.0g, A^vy/a^t? c^e/c^e, s/s, Spl/*, brindle tricolor
You will notice the randomness of the relationship between Day 2 weights and Day 17 weights. For instance, one of the heaviest Day 2 bubs is now 9.2g and the other is 12.0g. The very lightest Day 2 bub now weighs 12.0, while the next lightest bub weighs onlu 8.6g.
Could I use weights as an indication of obesity to determine which are brindles?
For breeding a c^ch/c^ch brindle tri I could cross the c^e/c^e brindle tri with one of the c^ch/c^e bubs, get a c^ch/c^e brindle tri, and then cross it to something for the other c^ch, BUT, if one of the c^ch/c^e bubs were brindle, I could cross it to another c^ch/c^e bub and possibly get a c^ch/c^ch brindle tri in just one generation. (Mrs. Beach's Brindle Empire is a very small empire and is highly concerned with economy of litters.)
Bub 1: Day 2=2.5g, Day 17=9.2g, a^t/a D/d c^ch/c^e s/s, Spl?/* (lesser high white)
Bub 2: Day 2=2.5g, Day 17=12.0g, a^t/* c^ch/c^e, medium dilute fox self
Bub 3: Day 2=2.4g, Day 17=8.6g, a^t/* c^ch/c^e, s/s Spl?/* (greater high white)
Bub 4: Day 2=2.4g, Day 17=12.3g, */a c^ch/c^e, darkest dilute self
Bub 5: Day 2=2.3g, Day 17=12.3g, a^t/* c^ch/c^e Spl?/*, second darkest dilute fox self
Bub 6: Day 2=2.3g, Day 17=8.6g, A^vy?/* c^ch/c^e, lightest dilute self
Bub 7: Day 2=2.2g, Day 17=12.0g, A^vy/a^t? c^e/c^e, s/s, Spl/*, brindle tricolor
You will notice the randomness of the relationship between Day 2 weights and Day 17 weights. For instance, one of the heaviest Day 2 bubs is now 9.2g and the other is 12.0g. The very lightest Day 2 bub now weighs 12.0, while the next lightest bub weighs onlu 8.6g.
Could I use weights as an indication of obesity to determine which are brindles?
For breeding a c^ch/c^ch brindle tri I could cross the c^e/c^e brindle tri with one of the c^ch/c^e bubs, get a c^ch/c^e brindle tri, and then cross it to something for the other c^ch, BUT, if one of the c^ch/c^e bubs were brindle, I could cross it to another c^ch/c^e bub and possibly get a c^ch/c^ch brindle tri in just one generation. (Mrs. Beach's Brindle Empire is a very small empire and is highly concerned with economy of litters.)
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