Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

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Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

Post by doganddisc on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:06 pm

What is the difference between ivory, bone, BEW, and cream?
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Re: Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

Post by kawmice on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:46 pm

Ivory- black eyes with a yellow sheen to the coat. Sometimes this can only be seen in a certain light. I live ivory!

BEW- black eyes and white coat. No yellow sheen

BE Cream- black eyes with an off white coat. Genetic wise- Ay/ * cch/cch

Bone- hmm...... Not all that familar with bone. It is also an off white with black eyes.
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Re: Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

Post by kawmice on Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:50 pm

Most people class ivory and bew as the same, but their appeatence is actually a bit different due to the yellow sheen in a true ivory.
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Post by doganddisc on Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:24 am

Thank you!!

Is ivory typically ce?
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Post by kawmice on Mon Jul 02, 2012 1:44 am

ce can mean a few things, let me clarify....

Beige is ce/ce
Coffee ironically can also be ce/ce depending on what standards you look at

Ivory is ce/c as well as BEW

I dont know why they have the same geneic code, but they do. I think it depends on the way in which the c dilutes affect the mouse as a whole. Genetics can be tricky and interresting. lol I have no idea what gives a true Ivory it's yellow sheen, but they sure are pretty.

I used to have a line of beautiful Ivory Satin Angoras. They definately were more stunning then my BEW satin line. Happy
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Post by doganddisc on Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:56 am

Thank you very much for that info! Big smile
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Post by Lycrisa on Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:46 am

So if you take a beige doe and breed her to a PEW, you will get all BEWs?
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Re: Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

Post by m137b on Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:15 am

I have never seen a ce/c mouse that was actually white without the addition of yellow or red.

I beleive most BEW's are unmarked white spotted mice. I have read several places that a combination of piebald and varigated can result in a black eyed white mouse, though I do not know how much selection would be required to acheive an absence of color.

Bone is another name for Ivory[ce/c], I don't recall which country called it bone but one of them. Just like beige is stone in the UK. There are a lot of colors that are given multiple names depending on where you are.

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Post by kawmice on Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:59 am

Ah! Thanks Cindy!
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Post by doganddisc on Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:16 am

Thank you Cindy!
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Re: Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

Post by Laigaie on Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:26 pm

Um, I hate to be contrary, but that's not how they're classed some places.

Ivory is satin PEW. Because the satin darkens the color slightly, PEW is known as Ivory in satin.

BEW is just that, black eyes rather than white. There are several ways to make BEW.

Cream and Bone are somewhat interchangeable, both genetically and in standards. FinnMouse and some stanards distinguish thusly: Bone is often described as ce/c, and is off-white (black-eyed only). Cream is also off-white, but is yellowy because it is a chinchillated red (black eyes) or fawn (pink eyes).


Therefore, beige (ce/ce) + pew (c/c) would be Bone (ce/c), an off-white mouse (assuming both are black-based). Any kind of dilution will render the mouse very nearly white. Pink-eyed bone, for example, would effectively be a PEW. Red-based bone would be black-eyed white (because the ce/c dilutes red more heavily).
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Re: Ivory vs bone vs BEW vs cream?

Post by Mrs. Beach on Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:23 pm

I believe coffee is b/b c^e/c^e.
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