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How to produce red mice?

Post by onceuponamousery on Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:22 pm

I'm not familiar with genetics much, I know the basics. We have recessive yellows, some are broken some are brindles. Is there a way to make reds with them some how?

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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by kawmice on Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:35 pm

I do not believe Red can be reproduced, BUT I am unsure. So.... I will just leave this question to the more genetics inclined members. Happy
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Rhasputin on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:00 pm

You can make 'reds' with brindle. If you have seen my mice in the for sale section 'available for rodent fest' my reds are all Avy brindles. Happy


But the gene that is most often called red is dominant red or lethal yellow (both the same gene, Ay) which is dominant and cannot be created unless you have the gene already.
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by kawmice on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:03 pm

Ah!!! ok... Happy
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Stina on Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:49 pm

You can produce red "recessive yellows" by breeding the darkest animals to eachother..it would just take FOREVER without the addition of modifiers from Ay reds that have been bred for a very very long time to have good red coloration. There ARE recessive reds (e/e) produced from crossing in mice from dominant red (Ay) lines...but they are extremely rare.

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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Rhasputin on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:08 pm

Stain is correct. Happy

Roland has great examples of what can be done to darken e/e (recessive yellow) mice. He crossed his with 'golden agouti' mice, which are agouti mice with a high dose of red pigment.

Here is his website, you can look in the 'recessive yellow' section for his photos of his progress. Happy

http://drofi.repage7.de/
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Stina on Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:21 pm

Here are a couple pics of recessive red (e/e) self and x-brindle mice I've produced. They need a great deal of improvement...but they are much darker than your standard e/e...

pied e/e doe by CSBeck, on Flickr

satin e/e x-brindle mother and daughter by CSBeck, on Flickr

e/e x-brindle doe by CSBeck, on Flickr

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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Mrs. Beach on Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:34 am

Stina! OOoooo [drool] those e/e x-brindles are to die for!
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by kawmice on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:10 am

wow....... so pretty!!!!
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Rhasputin on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:19 pm

e/e really makes for an awesome x-brindle. I don't think any of the other colours are quite as stunning.
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Stina on Sat Mar 10, 2012 1:27 pm

Ay makes for the same colors...but moreso in europe...lol

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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by thistlebrook on Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:19 pm

Such beautiful mice!
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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by onceuponamousery on Sun Mar 11, 2012 3:41 am

Hi,
Thank you everyone for the replies, I'm going to work on them and see what happens, I love the photos Stina, they are beautiful!

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Re: How to produce red mice?

Post by Stina on Sun Mar 11, 2012 4:36 am

Thanks!

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