Dilute Agouti Buck

This little guy is from Topazs (himi) only litter born on the 5th of April. He is due to be weaned tomorrow at 4 weeks old and I'm quite smitten with him already. This photo was taken at 18 days old

He takes a good photo! I like his pose. Come up with a name yet for your new sweetheart?

No name, not yet. I've always wanted one of those fancy long names - the pedigree names but I never manage to come up with anything other than "normal names".
He is the first fancy mouse my Dad has ever held! And my first "self"

His ticking has evened out (the "stripes" are no longer there) and is either c^ch/c^h or c^ch/c dilute.

I have some c^ch/c agouti. I think they are lighter than your boy. I would like to post pix but am so busy right now. Remind me? Things will be slower after Sunday.

I was wondering about those "stripes". They look neat actually, but I just assumed they were a trick of the light.

Mrs. Beach wrote:I would like to post pix but am so busy right now. Remind me?

Are you giving me a reason to email you? Haha will do!

madmouse wrote:I was wondering about those "stripes". They look neat actually, but I just assumed they were a trick of the light.

Definitely not a trick of the light. He started developing them when his coat came through but sadly, they didn't remain for long. Once his coat started to length slightly (both parents are poor longcoats), they started to disappear.
Here is another picture of him a day after he opened his eyes :

Moulting lines?

Any chance he could be a c-dilute brindle? I was just comparing him to the pic of Mrs. Beach in my avatar. I currently have an A^vy/a c^ch/c^e baby whose stripes are a darker brown than his background. C-dilute brindles' stripes are not always black.

Mrs. Beach wrote:Moulting lines?

Possibly but I wouldn't have thought moult lines would happen at 2-3 weeks old.

Mrs. Beach wrote:Any chance he could be a c-dilute brindle? I was just comparing him to the pic of Mrs. Beach in my avatar. I currently have an A^vy/a c^ch/c^e baby whose stripes are a darker brown than his background. C-dilute brindles' stripes are not always black.

Sadly there is no chance he is a c-dilute brindle. Dad is a definite agouti (he has produced cinnamons, dilute agoutis etc with non-agouti girls) and Mum is a Himalayan. As far as I am aware, the brindle gene never reached New Zealand.

JCC-13 babies, both c^ch/c^e. The one on the left is A^vy/A. The one on the right is a/a.


GCC-13 babies, now weaned, both c^ch/c. The one on the left is a/a. The one on the right is A/a.


At least, that's what their genotypes say they are. Given the variability of c-dilutes, it is entirely possible for an a/a c^ch/c to be darker than an a/a c^ch/c^e. My main point is to show to difference between black-based and agouti-based mice with the same c-dilute combinations.

Oh wow, that is really neat!
They are so similar yet so different. Their "base" colours seem the same if that makes any sense.

They are gorgeous by the way!

Thank you, Cordane! I'm getting into darker c-dilute combinations as I work my way towards A^vy/a c^ch/c^ch s/s Spl/*. Finally got my c^ch/c^ch happening!

I must get an updated picture of this boy! He is now 4 weeks old and the friendliest mouse I have ever had - he happily walks onto my hand when in his cage.

Oh! I was wondering if you had achieved your goal of c^ch/c^ch - I have always wondered what they would look like, especially in non-agouti form (A lot of my c-dilute pairings have the potential to make that combination).

See http://mouselovers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1304.

The one in front is agouti. The other two are a/a.

They are much darker in person. One would describe them as "near black" or "as dark as 80% cacao dark chocolate."

Oh wow! You're a gem! Thank you.
So c^ch/c^ch agouti and non-agouti look like very very dark chocolate, they are quite pretty really.

Yes, indeed! But I want c^ch/c^ch because I believe it turns A^vy orange to grey yet leaves the stripes black.

Mrs. Beach wrote:Yes, indeed! But I want c^ch/c^ch because I believe it turns A^vy orange to grey yet leaves the stripes black.

So similar looking to Mrs.Beach yes? I don't doubt you will keep us updated on your progress - I look forward to seeing what it looks like!

This is my little guy now, natural lighting. Sadly, his stripes are gone..

Great pics. That's an interesting looking mouse.

He seems to have developed what looks like a nose point.

Sorry to bring up an older thread again but turns out, he is A/a cch/ch

c^ch/c^h is what I would have guessed from the nose point. A/a makes his dilute color lighter.

Cordane! Boy, do I have some exciting c^ch/* brindle babies here! Lots of good stripes! I need to get hopping with my camera!

c^ch/c^h is what I would have guessed from the nose point.  A/a makes his dilute color lighter.

Cordane!  Boy, do I have some exciting c^ch/* brindle babies here!  Lots of good stripes!  I need to get hopping with my camera!

Mrs. Beach wrote:Cordane!  Boy, do I have some exciting c^ch/* brindle babies here!  Lots of good stripes!  I need to get hopping with my camera!

Yes, you best get hopping with that camera, I want to see some brindle babies - do you think you might have some c^ch/c^ch babies?
I must get around to emailing you - I've got 3 definitely pregnant (due within a week) mice and one who I'm curious if you have had others with her abnormal weight gain. Expect an email from me within a few hours